1 00:00:23,250 --> 00:00:14,330 [Music] 2 00:00:23,260 --> 00:00:26,000 you 3 00:00:32,339 --> 00:00:29,220 my name is ray Hernandez I live in my 4 00:00:36,619 --> 00:00:32,349 in Florida I currently work as an 5 00:00:38,819 --> 00:00:36,629 attorney previous to that I had went to 6 00:00:42,270 --> 00:00:38,829 University of California Berkeley for a 7 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:42,280 PhD this is back in the 1980s and 8 00:00:47,970 --> 00:00:44,710 previous to that I was in a master's 9 00:00:51,540 --> 00:00:47,980 program at Cornell University I also 10 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:51,550 taught at our two universities for six 11 00:00:56,369 --> 00:00:52,809 years at the New School for Social 12 00:01:02,729 --> 00:00:56,379 Research and the City University of New 13 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:02,739 York and before nineteen 2002 I had no 14 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:07,810 concepts of the paranormal of UFOs all 15 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:10,300 of these terms at zero interest in this 16 00:01:14,359 --> 00:01:12,070 I would have thought that everyone in 17 00:01:18,270 --> 00:01:14,369 here at this conference uh was a kook 18 00:01:22,740 --> 00:01:18,280 and then in 2012 19 00:01:25,740 --> 00:01:22,750 March 4th of 2012 we my wife and I had 20 00:01:27,690 --> 00:01:25,750 had a joint experience with an energy 21 00:01:31,260 --> 00:01:27,700 being that appeared in our living room 22 00:01:32,969 --> 00:01:31,270 because our 15 year old dog became 23 00:01:35,639 --> 00:01:32,979 totally paralyzed that Jack Russell 24 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:35,649 Terrier and she was like our first child 25 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:39,520 and my wife began praying all night she 26 00:01:47,309 --> 00:01:42,610 was a born and raised in Mexico hardcore 27 00:01:50,249 --> 00:01:47,319 Roman Catholic and and lo and behold the 28 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:50,259 next day this energy being appeared and 29 00:01:54,479 --> 00:01:52,330 it was the same day that we were gonna 30 00:01:55,589 --> 00:01:54,489 be euthanizing our dog so that afternoon 31 00:02:00,059 --> 00:01:55,599 we were gonna be putting her to sleep 32 00:02:01,499 --> 00:02:00,069 and so this energy being appeared my 33 00:02:04,020 --> 00:02:01,509 wife disappeared right in front of me 34 00:02:07,609 --> 00:02:04,030 together with the dog I was put to sleep 35 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:07,619 and then when I woke up 45 minutes later 36 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:11,110 the dog was totally healed running 37 00:02:16,890 --> 00:02:12,640 around the living room like a teenager 38 00:02:18,780 --> 00:02:16,900 and mind you before her stroke she was 39 00:02:21,119 --> 00:02:18,790 like a 90 year old person you know with 40 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:21,129 severe arthritis she was unable to run 41 00:02:26,550 --> 00:02:24,120 she was unable to jump a very sick dog 42 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:26,560 and now she was like a teenager running 43 00:02:32,940 --> 00:02:29,650 around the living room and my wife I 44 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:32,950 found out later the term is missing time 45 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:35,080 she had 45 minutes of missing time and 46 00:02:42,270 --> 00:02:39,430 so then about a month to half later my 47 00:02:42,940 --> 00:02:42,280 wife saw be gigantic UFO right outside 48 00:02:46,330 --> 00:02:42,950 her house 49 00:02:49,420 --> 00:02:46,340 and she always sees these uh this 50 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:49,430 intelligence as angels as angelic why 51 00:02:55,150 --> 00:02:51,680 because she had been praying all night 52 00:02:58,479 --> 00:02:55,160 for to God and to Christ and for angelic 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:02:58,489 intervention and it appeared so to her 54 00:03:03,820 --> 00:03:01,970 these are angelic beings that are 55 00:03:05,770 --> 00:03:03,830 interacting with her she then went to 56 00:03:08,860 --> 00:03:05,780 Mexico for an entire month there's a BA 57 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:08,870 in June so this was about three months 58 00:03:12,580 --> 00:03:11,450 after that initial experience and then 59 00:03:14,650 --> 00:03:12,590 for an entire month 60 00:03:18,039 --> 00:03:14,660 she would call down to see her angels 61 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:18,049 and guess what showed up UFOs very up 62 00:03:23,559 --> 00:03:21,110 close and one time she saw these three 63 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:23,569 human looking beings dressed in white 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:26,209 monk's robes that floated right in front 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:28,970 of her and then at a certain point they 66 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:31,970 disappeared so for my wife these 67 00:03:38,170 --> 00:03:35,209 experiences continued for about six 68 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:38,180 months or so and then for me my initial 69 00:03:46,180 --> 00:03:40,250 experience pretty much started after 70 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:46,190 hers finished and and I call down the 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:48,769 the craft that my wife had been seeing 72 00:03:55,930 --> 00:03:51,290 because I wanted to thank them for 73 00:03:57,670 --> 00:03:55,940 healing our dog and at first I was just 74 00:04:00,190 --> 00:03:57,680 killing time because I was waiting for a 75 00:04:02,620 --> 00:04:00,200 friend to give me some papers outside my 76 00:04:04,180 --> 00:04:02,630 house and he was late and so I said I 77 00:04:07,900 --> 00:04:04,190 what the hell let's give it a try let's 78 00:04:09,819 --> 00:04:07,910 try to call the hunter craft and in the 79 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:09,829 beginning I wasn't very sincere but then 80 00:04:16,569 --> 00:04:12,260 I became very sincere very loving very 81 00:04:19,750 --> 00:04:16,579 caring and 15 minutes later this super 82 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:19,760 large UAP because this was not a UFO 83 00:04:24,700 --> 00:04:22,160 this was a UAP the size of like a 84 00:04:28,330 --> 00:04:24,710 football stadium filled with all these 85 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:28,340 complex arrangements of lights appeared 86 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:31,190 directly five feet from the roof of my 87 00:04:35,469 --> 00:04:32,990 next-door neighbor's house and it was a 88 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:35,479 hundred meters tall six hundred meters 89 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:38,930 in width it went all the way back and 90 00:04:43,210 --> 00:04:41,510 then my daughter eventually saw it and 91 00:04:44,860 --> 00:04:43,220 these three frets and there was 92 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:44,870 telepathic communications that took 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:48,560 place and then after that started about 94 00:04:55,549 --> 00:04:52,570 an entire year more than a year of 95 00:04:58,519 --> 00:04:55,559 paranormal experiences non-stop 96 00:05:01,279 --> 00:04:58,529 it was like every week it was one or two 97 00:05:05,059 --> 00:05:01,289 incidences of non-stop paranormal 98 00:05:07,999 --> 00:05:05,069 experiences and and just how our 99 00:05:11,869 --> 00:05:08,009 organization started is started via a 100 00:05:16,129 --> 00:05:11,879 paranormal experience this was in May of 101 00:05:18,919 --> 00:05:16,139 2013 I was going to work to downtown 102 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:18,929 Miami at 8:30 in the morning in the 103 00:05:22,999 --> 00:05:20,969 middle of a traffic jam and I was 104 00:05:27,799 --> 00:05:23,009 listening to this radio interview of 105 00:05:32,449 --> 00:05:27,809 this man was doing a documentary on the 106 00:05:34,939 --> 00:05:32,459 fad he was doing fat sculptures from the 107 00:05:36,919 --> 00:05:34,949 liposuction fat that he had taken out so 108 00:05:39,019 --> 00:05:36,929 it was on public radio station I was 109 00:05:41,389 --> 00:05:39,029 listening to this interview and all of a 110 00:05:44,869 --> 00:05:41,399 sudden I'm not my car anymore I didn't 111 00:05:47,299 --> 00:05:44,879 have a body it was just my mind and I 112 00:05:51,049 --> 00:05:47,309 was in some other type of all tidy 113 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:51,059 mention or reality with nothing around 114 00:05:57,589 --> 00:05:53,969 me I'm just it's just my mind and then 115 00:06:00,919 --> 00:05:57,599 little by little what gets materialized 116 00:06:03,919 --> 00:06:00,929 all around me appeared that I was inside 117 00:06:05,739 --> 00:06:03,929 a big gigantic wheel a huge wheel if he 118 00:06:08,389 --> 00:06:05,749 could imagine like a ferris wheel times 119 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:08,399 you know 10 that type of thing and I was 120 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:11,039 inside and they were like spokes to that 121 00:06:17,629 --> 00:06:14,610 ferris wheel and each side each spoke 122 00:06:19,789 --> 00:06:17,639 was what I now call a contact modality 123 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:19,799 these are all the different ways that 124 00:06:24,859 --> 00:06:22,529 humans are piercing the wheel and having 125 00:06:28,249 --> 00:06:24,869 contact with non-human intelligence so 126 00:06:31,429 --> 00:06:28,259 in one spoke was near-death experiences 127 00:06:32,869 --> 00:06:31,439 another was UFO contact unknown was 128 00:06:35,329 --> 00:06:32,879 out-of-body experiences 129 00:06:37,789 --> 00:06:35,339 another one was remote viewing another 130 00:06:39,559 --> 00:06:37,799 was mediumship and channeling another 131 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:39,569 one was people that see and communicate 132 00:06:46,809 --> 00:06:42,499 with ghosts and spirits another one was 133 00:06:48,769 --> 00:06:46,819 mystical meditation another one was a 134 00:06:51,739 --> 00:06:48,779 hallucinogenic journeys people that take 135 00:06:54,259 --> 00:06:51,749 ayahuasca or DMT in and psilocybin 136 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:54,269 mushrooms that sort of thing etc etc the 137 00:06:58,929 --> 00:06:56,849 Tsai phenomenon and so all of these 138 00:07:01,579 --> 00:06:58,939 experiences came out like it videos 139 00:07:03,679 --> 00:07:01,589 where I saw each of these different 140 00:07:06,139 --> 00:07:03,689 sections it was like a video and it 141 00:07:08,359 --> 00:07:06,149 wasn't a voice and it was in a language 142 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:08,369 but it was like a direct knowing like I 143 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:09,210 looked at it 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:10,710 and it was like straight information 145 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:13,370 download like I knew what that was okay 146 00:07:18,409 --> 00:07:15,810 looked at the next one boom I know what 147 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:18,419 it was so I and then after that took 148 00:07:24,340 --> 00:07:21,060 place that was difficult to gauge time 149 00:07:29,659 --> 00:07:24,350 because time didn't exist in that 150 00:07:31,159 --> 00:07:29,669 reality then all of a sudden again it 151 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:31,169 wasn't a voice but it was like a 152 00:07:39,379 --> 00:07:36,289 telepathic information and it was 153 00:07:41,689 --> 00:07:39,389 instructions that told me these are all 154 00:07:44,050 --> 00:07:41,699 the different ways that humans are 155 00:07:46,159 --> 00:07:44,060 communicating with us okay 156 00:07:48,110 --> 00:07:46,169 humans are studying each of these 157 00:07:51,939 --> 00:07:48,120 different phenomena as separate and 158 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:51,949 distinct phenomena but in actuality it's 159 00:07:57,260 --> 00:07:55,860 one phenomena and the glue that's 160 00:08:00,830 --> 00:07:57,270 holding it all together 161 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:00,840 humans are calling it consciousness but 162 00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:02,970 in fact what it is it's the very fabric 163 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:08,280 of our reality okay and while this was 164 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:10,530 all taking place I don't know what the 165 00:08:14,899 --> 00:08:12,870 hell was going on I didn't understand 166 00:08:16,460 --> 00:08:14,909 these messages what they were telling me 167 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:16,470 this is the first time I was being 168 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:18,240 introduced to a lot of these topics I 169 00:08:22,730 --> 00:08:21,300 had known about this but then after I 170 00:08:24,730 --> 00:08:22,740 visualized it then it was like an 171 00:08:28,580 --> 00:08:24,740 instant awareness of what it was and 172 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:28,590 then it says you will need you need to 173 00:08:37,060 --> 00:08:31,770 inform humanity of the relationship 174 00:08:38,850 --> 00:08:37,070 between us consciousness 175 00:08:42,690 --> 00:08:38,860 spirit world 176 00:08:45,570 --> 00:08:42,700 okay you will need help and there's two 177 00:08:48,450 --> 00:08:45,580 criteria for that help this is not about 178 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:48,460 making money about getting wealthy and 179 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:50,770 and making a living and living off of 180 00:08:56,130 --> 00:08:54,310 this secondly the people that here to 181 00:09:00,270 --> 00:08:56,140 help you have to be individuals with 182 00:09:02,090 --> 00:09:00,280 minimal ego okay then poof I'm back in 183 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:02,100 the car in the middle of a traffic jam 184 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:04,510 listening to this man talking about 185 00:09:12,510 --> 00:09:09,100 doing a documentary about art fat okay 186 00:09:15,690 --> 00:09:12,520 and the interview did not skip a beat it 187 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:15,700 was like I was taken out of time I was 188 00:09:19,650 --> 00:09:17,250 out there for like four thirty minutes 189 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:19,660 perceived like more or less and I was 190 00:09:26,490 --> 00:09:24,160 put back without any seconds elapsed so 191 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:26,500 I was taken out of space time and then I 192 00:09:31,770 --> 00:09:29,170 was like what the hell just happened you 193 00:09:34,380 --> 00:09:31,780 know and I immediately called the only 194 00:09:36,780 --> 00:09:34,390 experiencer that I knew that I was 195 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:36,790 talking to and she basically calmed me 196 00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:39,910 down and she said yes I've know of other 197 00:09:43,770 --> 00:09:41,680 people that have had not the same 198 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:43,780 experience you had but people being 199 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:45,610 taken out and gone to another matrix 200 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:49,810 reality and brought back and and so she 201 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:51,670 like settled me down and told me to 202 00:09:57,900 --> 00:09:55,120 relax and and so the important part was 203 00:10:00,120 --> 00:09:57,910 not that experience even though that's a 204 00:10:02,220 --> 00:10:00,130 crazy experience in and of itself it's 205 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:02,230 what happened immediately afterwards 206 00:10:08,450 --> 00:10:05,680 okay you know mary rod welch is one of 207 00:10:10,620 --> 00:10:08,460 the world's leading researchers on 208 00:10:12,420 --> 00:10:10,630 individuals that I've seen UFOs and have 209 00:10:16,170 --> 00:10:12,430 had contact with non-human intelligence 210 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:16,180 so back six months earlier in October I 211 00:10:22,430 --> 00:10:18,310 had sent an email to like ten very 212 00:10:26,370 --> 00:10:22,440 famous names people like Stan Freedman 213 00:10:28,020 --> 00:10:26,380 Linda Moulton Howe Grant Cameron Whitley 214 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:28,030 Strieber you know names like that 215 00:10:31,470 --> 00:10:29,410 because I wanted someone to talk to 216 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:31,480 because I had no one to talk to which is 217 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:33,970 very natural now we talk to people every 218 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:36,370 day the we call most people who send me 219 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:38,170 emails and I wound up talking to them on 220 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:40,480 the telephone so I know what that is so 221 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:42,670 I make my my time available to talk to 222 00:10:48,180 --> 00:10:46,390 people and so Mary Rodwell was one of 223 00:10:50,190 --> 00:10:48,190 these people okay but I never received a 224 00:10:52,530 --> 00:10:50,200 response back from her I only received 225 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:52,540 the response back from Whitley Strieber 226 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:55,690 grant Cameron and so the email that may 227 00:11:00,300 --> 00:10:58,210 reset me that very same afternoon that I 228 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:00,310 had that experience I got home there was 229 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:03,250 an email from her says dear a I'm sorry 230 00:11:07,530 --> 00:11:05,200 I'm responding to an email that you had 231 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:07,540 sent me six months ago but it just 232 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:10,770 popped on my computer screen today and 233 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:15,010 so I responded back and I said well this 234 00:11:18,150 --> 00:11:16,390 is what's happened over the last six 235 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:18,160 months all these additional crazy 236 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:20,320 experiences and this is what happened 237 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:22,930 today so mev she says oh my god ray you 238 00:11:25,830 --> 00:11:23,680 know We Need to Talk 239 00:11:28,410 --> 00:11:25,840 and so I started you know she showed me 240 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:28,420 how to use Skype and we were on skype to 241 00:11:33,510 --> 00:11:32,110 like 1:30 in the morning and then I said 242 00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:33,520 Mary I gotta go to work tomorrow you 243 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:35,680 know can we continue a conversation so 244 00:11:41,610 --> 00:11:39,010 we agreed to continue the very next day 245 00:11:44,430 --> 00:11:41,620 at 9:30 in the morning I got a telephone 246 00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:44,440 call hello is this ray Hernandez said 247 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:47,800 yes who's this of dr.rudi shields who I 248 00:11:52,950 --> 00:11:49,510 had no idea who this man was 249 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Rudy shields is a an emeritus retired 250 00:11:58,850 --> 00:11:55,930 professor of astrophysics at Harvard 251 00:12:01,530 --> 00:11:58,860 University one of the world's leading 252 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:01,540 researchers scholars academics on black 253 00:12:06,930 --> 00:12:04,300 holes had been at Harvard for 40 254 00:12:09,090 --> 00:12:06,940 40-something years very close friend of 255 00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:09,100 the late dr. John Mack he was one of the 256 00:12:11,610 --> 00:12:11,140 few academics that defended dr. John 257 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:11,620 Mack 258 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:14,320 during his Inquisition at at Harvard 259 00:12:18,270 --> 00:12:16,870 okay also very close friend of Edgar 260 00:12:20,010 --> 00:12:18,280 Mitchell had been working with Edgar 261 00:12:22,890 --> 00:12:20,020 Mitchell and numerous other PhD 262 00:12:25,550 --> 00:12:22,900 physicists to assist Edgar in his 263 00:12:28,890 --> 00:12:25,560 quantum hologram theory of consciousness 264 00:12:31,770 --> 00:12:28,900 so then I told Rudy what happened to me 265 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:31,780 all the details that he says ray what 266 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:34,150 you had what your experience was Edgar 267 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:36,490 Mitch's quantum hologram theory of 268 00:12:41,810 --> 00:12:38,350 consciousness but you were visually 269 00:12:44,580 --> 00:12:41,820 shown that that all of these paranormal 270 00:12:47,940 --> 00:12:44,590 experiences is actually one phenomenon 271 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:47,950 and the mechanism you know the conscious 272 00:12:54,390 --> 00:12:51,040 mechanism of it had recalled the quantum 273 00:12:57,570 --> 00:12:54,400 hologram okay so you were brought there 274 00:13:00,270 --> 00:12:57,580 and shown all of this and so he then 275 00:13:02,970 --> 00:13:00,280 began to explain the physics of this how 276 00:13:04,950 --> 00:13:02,980 it worked and he tried to you know 277 00:13:06,460 --> 00:13:04,960 downplay it so I be able to understand 278 00:13:09,970 --> 00:13:06,470 it but still I only understood 279 00:13:13,450 --> 00:13:09,980 a part of it and and then towards the 280 00:13:15,130 --> 00:13:13,460 end he says uh ray you need to do 281 00:13:17,860 --> 00:13:15,140 something about what they told you you 282 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:17,870 know and but I had no idea what they 283 00:13:22,030 --> 00:13:20,210 wanted of me so he says look I'm gonna 284 00:13:23,710 --> 00:13:22,040 call Edgar Mitchell I'm gonna talk to 285 00:13:25,390 --> 00:13:23,720 him and send them an email right away 286 00:13:27,670 --> 00:13:25,400 because he only lives 90 minutes away 287 00:13:28,990 --> 00:13:27,680 from you and then he said I want you to 288 00:13:30,970 --> 00:13:29,000 write down this telephone number and I 289 00:13:33,370 --> 00:13:30,980 wrote it down and he said this is the 290 00:13:36,430 --> 00:13:33,380 telephone number of my mentor and so I 291 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:36,440 said who's your mentor and he says dr. 292 00:13:43,180 --> 00:13:39,410 Edgar Mitchell and so I knew who he was 293 00:13:44,980 --> 00:13:43,190 very very famous man and so I didn't 294 00:13:47,590 --> 00:13:44,990 have the courage to give him a call I 295 00:13:50,020 --> 00:13:47,600 waited about four hours later and then I 296 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:50,030 gave him a call and Edgar picked up the 297 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:52,760 phone and he said that Rudy and he had 298 00:13:58,270 --> 00:13:55,670 already communicated and broody 299 00:14:00,370 --> 00:13:58,280 explained to me the experience that you 300 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:00,380 had so he said what are you doing 301 00:14:04,750 --> 00:14:02,210 tomorrow morning at at 10 o'clock 302 00:14:07,090 --> 00:14:04,760 I said well or I don't have anything you 303 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:07,100 know planned that just work so what can 304 00:14:10,450 --> 00:14:08,720 you take the day off tomorrow I said no 305 00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:10,460 problem he says can you get here at 10 306 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:10,880 o'clock 307 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:14,690 I said confirmed so he lives and used to 308 00:14:18,970 --> 00:14:16,730 live in Lake Worth Florida before he 309 00:14:22,330 --> 00:14:18,980 passed away which is 90 minutes away 310 00:14:23,770 --> 00:14:22,340 from me so at 10 o'clock in the morning 311 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:23,780 the very next day 312 00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:26,450 there's only not even two days had 313 00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:30,560 passed I was at Edgar's home and there I 314 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:32,840 was there for six hours and I was 315 00:14:36,930 --> 00:14:34,370 subsequently at Edgar's home more than 316 00:14:40,510 --> 00:14:36,940 20 times we came very good friends and 317 00:14:43,090 --> 00:14:40,520 he at the end of every heard my story he 318 00:14:46,270 --> 00:14:43,100 then went into his personal experiences 319 00:14:49,450 --> 00:14:46,280 and and he told me so many details about 320 00:14:51,940 --> 00:14:49,460 his life which I won't go into now and 321 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:51,950 then towards the end of it he says look 322 00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:53,870 right Rudy and I already discussed your 323 00:15:00,040 --> 00:14:56,839 situation we will be your scientific 324 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:00,050 advisors for the mission that you were 325 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:04,730 given you he said mandate and and so I 326 00:15:09,010 --> 00:15:06,470 had no idea what he was talking about 327 00:15:11,020 --> 00:15:09,020 you know as a beggar I've got no idea 328 00:15:13,170 --> 00:15:11,030 what I'm supposed to do he says don't 329 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:13,180 worry 330 00:15:20,130 --> 00:15:15,760 you will find out that's how it always 331 00:15:22,620 --> 00:15:20,140 works okay and so he said we will be 332 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:22,630 your scientific advisors for whatever he 333 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:25,050 recommended an organization on nonprofit 334 00:15:33,570 --> 00:15:30,940 for whatever is to be done so then when 335 00:15:36,630 --> 00:15:33,580 I got home I emailed Mary Rodwell and we 336 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:36,640 did chatted on skype and then I said 337 00:15:41,940 --> 00:15:39,250 would you like to join us so then the 338 00:15:44,490 --> 00:15:41,950 four of us became the co-founders for 339 00:15:46,650 --> 00:15:44,500 this organization that eventually became 340 00:15:51,210 --> 00:15:46,660 to be known as the dr. Edgar Mitchell 341 00:15:53,660 --> 00:15:51,220 free foundation okay and what we wound 342 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:53,670 up doing was the first ever 343 00:16:00,240 --> 00:15:57,100 comprehensive academic research study of 344 00:16:02,130 --> 00:16:00,250 individuals that had seen UFOs and have 345 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:02,140 had contact with non-human intelligence 346 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:04,210 no one had ever done this study before 347 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:07,570 and so little by little these other 348 00:16:12,510 --> 00:16:09,690 professors Edgar made some phone calls 349 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:12,520 Rudy had made some phone calls and then 350 00:16:17,370 --> 00:16:14,890 we had a team of many many retired PhD 351 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:17,380 academics together with lay researchers 352 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:20,410 and Cathy Martin was one of them dr. Leo 353 00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:24,610 sprinkle Barbara Lam Denise toner to get 354 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:27,280 together with numerous PhD academics dr. 355 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:29,920 claw Swanson who's a PhD in physics from 356 00:16:35,310 --> 00:16:32,110 Princeton University dr. Dean Radin 357 00:16:36,690 --> 00:16:35,320 became an adviser to us dr. Bob Davis 358 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:36,700 who was a retired professor of 359 00:16:42,930 --> 00:16:40,090 neuroscience and many other academics 360 00:16:45,540 --> 00:16:42,940 joined us so what we did is for the 361 00:16:47,610 --> 00:16:45,550 first doctor john clemo he became the 362 00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:47,620 chair of our research committee dr. 363 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:52,000 clemo had taught psychology as a tenured 364 00:16:57,330 --> 00:16:54,730 professor for more than 45 years he was 365 00:16:58,950 --> 00:16:57,340 one of the few academics to be a tenured 366 00:17:01,170 --> 00:16:58,960 professor focusing mainly on the 367 00:17:04,410 --> 00:17:01,180 paranormal he had written articles and 368 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:04,420 books on on UFOs near-death experiences 369 00:17:09,930 --> 00:17:07,120 out-of-body experiences channeling you 370 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:09,940 name it consciousness many were 371 00:17:16,050 --> 00:17:12,880 peer-reviewed academic articles and 372 00:17:17,610 --> 00:17:16,060 several academic books and so he became 373 00:17:20,090 --> 00:17:17,620 the chair of our research committee and 374 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:20,100 so over a nine-month period this team of 375 00:17:25,689 --> 00:17:22,930 academics with the team of researchers 376 00:17:28,509 --> 00:17:25,699 you know people like Mary rod wall cath 377 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:28,519 Mardin etc barber lamp we all got 378 00:17:34,029 --> 00:17:30,769 together and we said okay how do you go 379 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:34,039 about beginning for the first time to do 380 00:17:40,029 --> 00:17:36,970 a comprehensive multi-language 381 00:17:43,090 --> 00:17:40,039 multi-country academic research study of 382 00:17:45,490 --> 00:17:43,100 people that have seen UFOs and have had 383 00:17:47,529 --> 00:17:45,500 contact with non-human intelligence nine 384 00:17:50,289 --> 00:17:47,539 months we spent on the methodology and 385 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:50,299 we came up with three surveys 386 00:17:56,799 --> 00:17:53,690 two of them were quantitative one of 387 00:17:59,610 --> 00:17:56,809 them was a qualitative survey we wound 388 00:18:03,159 --> 00:17:59,620 up with 600 quantitative questions and 389 00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:03,169 70 written responses to open-ended 390 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:05,990 questions for the English language 391 00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:07,490 survey because we're doing in multiple 392 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:10,580 languages we wound up with 4,200 393 00:18:16,330 --> 00:18:13,010 individuals for more than 100 countries 394 00:18:18,639 --> 00:18:16,340 that took our surveys for the 395 00:18:22,090 --> 00:18:18,649 qualitative instrument we've received 396 00:18:24,009 --> 00:18:22,100 more than 10,000 pages of you know 397 00:18:28,269 --> 00:18:24,019 detailed experiences from individuals 398 00:18:30,970 --> 00:18:28,279 and then for three years we wound up 399 00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:30,980 disseminating our survey asking people 400 00:18:36,850 --> 00:18:33,830 to take our survey and I could go into 401 00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:36,860 some of those details but basically we 402 00:18:43,870 --> 00:18:40,190 posted on a weekly basis to over 500 403 00:18:45,460 --> 00:18:43,880 Facebook sites mainly UFO there was the 404 00:18:48,190 --> 00:18:45,470 vast majority of these Facebook sites 405 00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:48,200 and paranormal type of Facebook sites 406 00:18:51,899 --> 00:18:49,760 that talked about out-of-body 407 00:18:54,639 --> 00:18:51,909 experiences ghosts and spirits 408 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:54,649 near-death experiences consciousness 409 00:19:01,330 --> 00:18:58,610 rate web sites and then we we spoke at 410 00:19:02,980 --> 00:19:01,340 over 100 radio shows and many of the 411 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:02,990 people in our organization had their own 412 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:06,529 radio shows grant Cameron Cameron which 413 00:19:10,889 --> 00:19:08,450 was an adviser to us had interviewed us 414 00:19:14,169 --> 00:19:10,899 numerous times mary ellen guiley 415 00:19:16,629 --> 00:19:14,179 who's a member of our board of directors 416 00:19:19,539 --> 00:19:16,639 she every week she talked about our 417 00:19:22,210 --> 00:19:19,549 research study Kathy Martin on a weekly 418 00:19:26,049 --> 00:19:22,220 basis is on these are radio interviews 419 00:19:28,419 --> 00:19:26,059 and Barbara lamb was on numerous radio 420 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,429 shows Leo sprinkle and some of our 421 00:19:32,710 --> 00:19:30,320 academics so it was a constant 422 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:32,720 bombardment for three years on radio 423 00:19:38,049 --> 00:19:34,730 interviews and then we had a mailing 424 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:38,059 list of 5,000 names and so many of the 425 00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:39,710 people of our committee 426 00:19:44,020 --> 00:19:42,140 donated their mailing lists and these 427 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:44,030 are thousands of people's five thousand 428 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:46,850 people's also we sent to all the MUFON 429 00:19:52,180 --> 00:19:49,370 representatives we had over 250 names in 430 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:52,190 MUFON so the whole hierarchy from the 431 00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:54,770 top brass to the state directors the 432 00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:56,960 assistant state directors to the star 433 00:20:00,970 --> 00:19:59,600 team members to you know all the 434 00:20:03,730 --> 00:20:00,980 different titles that MUFON that is a 435 00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:03,740 state level these people got a monthly 436 00:20:07,570 --> 00:20:06,110 may email telling them this is a 437 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,580 research study we're doing if you know 438 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:08,960 anyone that's had these experiences 439 00:20:13,390 --> 00:20:11,450 encourage them to take our survey so 440 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:13,400 this was done over a three year and we 441 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:17,060 as I say we collected 4200 responses 442 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:20,480 from over a hundred countries then we 443 00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:23,360 spent an entire year analyzing that data 444 00:20:28,810 --> 00:20:26,030 we had a PhD statistician that worked 445 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:28,820 with us dr. Russell's called pone and he 446 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:30,710 was doing lots of statistical analysis 447 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:34,090 to it we wound up publishing two 448 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:37,190 peer-reviewed academic articles one was 449 00:20:42,130 --> 00:20:39,610 in the journal for the Society for 450 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,140 scientific exploration and it's a 451 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:43,760 journal that Jacques Vallee has 452 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:46,240 published in numerous times 453 00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:53,930 how put off let me see 454 00:20:58,090 --> 00:20:55,670 several of the scientists and our 455 00:21:00,790 --> 00:20:58,100 organization had published in that 456 00:21:03,940 --> 00:21:00,800 journal I think I mentioned Jack LaLanne 457 00:21:06,250 --> 00:21:03,950 numerous times and so Dean Radin dr. 458 00:21:08,110 --> 00:21:06,260 Dean Radin as well and then in the 459 00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:08,120 Journal of consciousness studies so 460 00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:09,440 these were peer-reviewed academic 461 00:21:21,310 --> 00:21:14,150 reviewed academic journals we then began 462 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:25,240 beyond UFOs the science of consciousness 463 00:21:32,169 --> 00:21:28,610 and contact with non-human intelligence 464 00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:32,179 this book is 820 pages as you can see 465 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:36,289 it's a very thick book very very heavy 466 00:21:41,470 --> 00:21:38,330 weighs three and a half pounds this is 467 00:21:44,590 --> 00:21:41,480 the result of five years of research and 468 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:44,600 as I said before is the first academic 469 00:21:50,590 --> 00:21:47,210 research study of people that have seen 470 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:50,600 you UFOs and I've had contact with 471 00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,110 non-human intelligence now let me go 472 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:56,480 over some of the research findings from 473 00:22:01,690 --> 00:21:58,610 our book obviously there are hundreds of 474 00:22:03,460 --> 00:22:01,700 our findings to our research study but 475 00:22:07,899 --> 00:22:03,470 let me go over the four major findings 476 00:22:09,490 --> 00:22:07,909 okay we wanted to find out how people 477 00:22:12,249 --> 00:22:09,500 perceive these experiences whether they 478 00:22:14,409 --> 00:22:12,259 were positive negative or neutral and we 479 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:14,419 asked that question more than twenty 480 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:16,730 five ways because depending how you ask 481 00:22:20,350 --> 00:22:17,809 a question you'll get different 482 00:22:22,029 --> 00:22:20,360 responses we also asked for the 483 00:22:25,330 --> 00:22:22,039 different types of beings that people 484 00:22:27,730 --> 00:22:25,340 were seeing physical beings how would 485 00:22:31,539 --> 00:22:27,740 they characterize those experiences was 486 00:22:35,019 --> 00:22:31,549 it mainly negative slightly negative 487 00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:35,029 neutral slightly positive or mainly 488 00:22:40,990 --> 00:22:39,529 positive and so then we got lots of 489 00:22:44,490 --> 00:22:41,000 responses to all these questions and 490 00:22:47,769 --> 00:22:44,500 what we determined was that initially 491 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:47,779 38% of these individuals viewed their 492 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:51,730 experiences as negative initially but 493 00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:53,130 this was the 494 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:56,700 initial experiences now now many years 495 00:23:00,890 --> 00:22:58,530 later how you perceive these experiences 496 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:00,900 now depending on the question between 497 00:23:09,410 --> 00:23:05,010 85% to 95% viewed their experiences as 498 00:23:13,490 --> 00:23:09,420 positive okay which contradicts was 499 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:13,500 being presented in ufology well we also 500 00:23:17,860 --> 00:23:15,690 found out was that one-third of the 501 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:17,870 people had abduction experiences 502 00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:20,910 two-thirds never had an abduction but 503 00:23:23,810 --> 00:23:22,620 yet they've had contact experiences 504 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:23,820 they've seen UFOs 505 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:26,250 okay now the people that were the most 506 00:23:33,650 --> 00:23:29,730 negative or the logically the abductees 507 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:33,660 but even then 70% of the people that I 508 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:35,910 had abduction experiences now call 509 00:23:42,430 --> 00:23:38,970 themselves contact these not abductees 510 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,440 the reason why was because over time 511 00:23:46,910 --> 00:23:44,960 their experiences changed 512 00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:46,920 initially they were very frightful 513 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,020 because you saw these physical beings 514 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:51,360 you were totally scared or you were on a 515 00:23:57,860 --> 00:23:54,930 paralyzed being examined almost all the 516 00:23:59,600 --> 00:23:57,870 time by a small gray and the people that 517 00:24:01,940 --> 00:23:59,610 only had one or two of these experiences 518 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:01,950 and nothing else they were the most 519 00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:06,510 traumatized individuals okay but for the 520 00:24:10,370 --> 00:24:07,950 vast majority of people they didn't have 521 00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:10,380 one or two experiences okay and they 522 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:12,270 didn't have enough abduction experiences 523 00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,840 for the vast majority of the people 40% 524 00:24:23,380 --> 00:24:18,240 had more than twenty experiences okay 525 00:24:28,430 --> 00:24:23,390 another almost 35% had between 10 to 2 526 00:24:30,620 --> 00:24:28,440 2010 to 20 so almost 80% of these people 527 00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:30,630 were having 10 or more experiences and 528 00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:33,030 what happened was the nature of the 529 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:35,460 experience changed okay in the beginning 530 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:39,120 it was these frightful experiences like 531 00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:40,590 whitley strieber willy streamer is a 532 00:24:44,780 --> 00:24:42,240 classic example if you're familiar with 533 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:44,790 his story in the beginning was frightful 534 00:24:50,570 --> 00:24:47,610 dreaded you know highly highly negative 535 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:50,580 and now their spiritual experiences for 536 00:24:55,370 --> 00:24:53,250 Whitley okay he's grateful he gives 537 00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:55,380 thanks to God that these beings 538 00:24:59,330 --> 00:24:57,200 interacted with him because it gave him 539 00:25:02,900 --> 00:24:59,340 spirituality totally transformed him 540 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:02,910 okay into a new total person okay that's 541 00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,370 exactly what we found out in a research 542 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:10,019 just like Whitley Strieber they began 543 00:25:15,570 --> 00:25:12,609 with these physical type of experiences 544 00:25:18,089 --> 00:25:15,580 later on human looking beings begin 545 00:25:21,239 --> 00:25:18,099 interacting with people and then also 546 00:25:23,489 --> 00:25:21,249 energy beings begin interacting with 547 00:25:25,499 --> 00:25:23,499 people and that's where the spiritual 548 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:25,509 aspects on the spiritual training 549 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:28,090 okay the Enlightenment people being 550 00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:30,190 brought to matrix realities what we 551 00:25:34,169 --> 00:25:33,070 discovered was that almost almost double 552 00:25:36,570 --> 00:25:34,179 the number of people that have 553 00:25:40,229 --> 00:25:36,580 abductions were brought to matrix 554 00:25:42,509 --> 00:25:40,239 realities okay and and these are almost 555 00:25:44,249 --> 00:25:42,519 all positive experiences and they're 556 00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:44,259 they're taught lessons like like like 557 00:25:48,269 --> 00:25:46,440 for me you know lessons about 558 00:25:52,589 --> 00:25:48,279 spirituality that sort of thing and 559 00:25:56,459 --> 00:25:52,599 other you know concepts and so and again 560 00:25:59,369 --> 00:25:56,469 these are things that UFO mainstream 561 00:26:03,539 --> 00:25:59,379 ufology doesn't discuss why because no 562 00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:03,549 one's ever done this study before and so 563 00:26:08,190 --> 00:26:05,919 that's one topic the the positive 564 00:26:10,109 --> 00:26:08,200 negative or neutral aspect of it that 565 00:26:13,019 --> 00:26:10,119 was these questions the second topic 566 00:26:14,849 --> 00:26:13,029 that we found out was that we asked over 567 00:26:18,450 --> 00:26:14,859 100 questions about paranormal 568 00:26:21,539 --> 00:26:18,460 experiences and people were checking off 569 00:26:24,479 --> 00:26:21,549 all the boxes in tons of boxes for 570 00:26:27,709 --> 00:26:24,489 example 80% of the individuals had 571 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:27,719 out-of-body experiences the researchers 572 00:26:32,969 --> 00:26:29,289 Kathy Mardon 573 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,979 Barbara lamb Mary rod will sprinkle they 574 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:35,200 new is a very very high rate but they 575 00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,089 never were able to quantify it 576 00:26:40,729 --> 00:26:39,039 you know the percentage-wise well now we 577 00:26:44,190 --> 00:26:40,739 got eighty percent of these people 578 00:26:47,219 --> 00:26:44,200 near-death experiences 37 percent had 579 00:26:50,339 --> 00:26:47,229 near-death experiences okay medical 580 00:26:54,029 --> 00:26:50,349 healings 50 percent of the people had 581 00:26:55,529 --> 00:26:54,039 medical healings huge numbers okay one 582 00:27:01,109 --> 00:26:55,539 of our chapters in our book is about 583 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:01,119 medical healings okay orbs two-thirds of 584 00:27:05,609 --> 00:27:02,710 the people had physically seen an orb 585 00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:05,619 not via picture okay which is what 586 00:27:09,690 --> 00:27:06,969 circulating on the inside we don't about 587 00:27:11,779 --> 00:27:09,700 people physically seeing orbs telepathic 588 00:27:14,489 --> 00:27:11,789 communications again close to 70% 589 00:27:15,899 --> 00:27:14,499 telepathic communications paranormal 590 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:15,909 experiences inside their home 591 00:27:19,769 --> 00:27:18,820 95 percent paranormal experiences inside 592 00:27:21,539 --> 00:27:19,779 their home 593 00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:21,549 I mean you name the paranormal 594 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:23,830 experience ghosts and spirits tons of 595 00:27:29,549 --> 00:27:25,690 people that we're seeing ghosts and 596 00:27:31,619 --> 00:27:29,559 spirits so what we concluded based upon 597 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:31,629 our survey both the quantitative 598 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:33,609 questions and the written responses that 599 00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:35,830 these open and the questions was that 600 00:27:41,849 --> 00:27:39,460 the overwhelming majority of the 601 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:41,859 experiences of these individuals were 602 00:27:49,379 --> 00:27:45,450 not physical but in fact were paranormal 603 00:27:51,690 --> 00:27:49,389 okay again mainstream ufology does not 604 00:27:53,999 --> 00:27:51,700 discuss that okay a lot of these 605 00:27:56,129 --> 00:27:54,009 materialist lecturers are going these 606 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:56,139 lecture circuits they totally dismiss 607 00:28:00,959 --> 00:27:58,450 this stuff as a whoo-whoo stuff that's 608 00:28:02,099 --> 00:28:00,969 not real you know that's not ufology but 609 00:28:04,109 --> 00:28:02,109 those people are totally clueless 610 00:28:06,269 --> 00:28:04,119 because they don't really know what's 611 00:28:08,820 --> 00:28:06,279 going on at the experience or level we 612 00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:08,830 managed to academically document this 613 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:12,070 with more than 4,000 people from over a 614 00:28:19,310 --> 00:28:15,849 hundred countries let me retract a 615 00:28:22,019 --> 00:28:19,320 little bit our statistician analyzed our 616 00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:22,029 responses according to different country 617 00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:25,929 groupings he had mainline Europe he had 618 00:28:30,029 --> 00:28:28,629 the United Kingdom he had Canada the 619 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,039 United States and then he grouped 620 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:33,279 grouped together Australia New Zealand 621 00:28:37,399 --> 00:28:35,289 and then we looked at how the people 622 00:28:40,349 --> 00:28:37,409 responded to each of the questions and 623 00:28:43,489 --> 00:28:40,359 what he determined what our data 624 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:43,499 revealed was that there was very little 625 00:28:50,339 --> 00:28:46,809 variance in how people responded it was 626 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:50,349 like 10% variance for all the questions 627 00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:53,049 so that means no matter where you lived 628 00:28:58,049 --> 00:28:56,409 and also in the different languages the 629 00:29:00,119 --> 00:28:58,059 Spanish researchers found out for the 630 00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:00,129 Spanish survey they were answering the 631 00:29:05,489 --> 00:29:02,830 same way consistently to each of these 632 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:05,499 same questions okay so that's another 633 00:29:09,570 --> 00:29:07,570 revelation that this is valid data 634 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,580 people are answering the same way no 635 00:29:12,749 --> 00:29:10,960 matter whether he lived and what 636 00:29:15,869 --> 00:29:12,759 language they were answering these 637 00:29:17,639 --> 00:29:15,879 surveys now getting back the first one 638 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:17,649 was that its prime overwhelmingly 639 00:29:22,409 --> 00:29:19,210 positive experiences 640 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:22,419 number two the overwhelmingly majority 641 00:29:26,639 --> 00:29:24,190 of these experiences were paranormal in 642 00:29:28,229 --> 00:29:26,649 nature they might have seen a UFO they 643 00:29:30,719 --> 00:29:28,239 might have had contact with non-human 644 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:30,729 intelligence and not just physical 645 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:33,250 contact we're talking also downloads and 646 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:35,130 different types of contact experiences 647 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:37,450 but the vast majority of these 648 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:39,550 experiences were paranormal like in my 649 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:42,640 case I've seen an energy being once I 650 00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:45,850 called down UFOs three times twice I was 651 00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:48,760 accessible very close one time thirty 652 00:29:55,950 --> 00:29:50,620 feet like I told you about another 653 00:29:57,930 --> 00:29:55,960 separate time this massive blimp like 654 00:30:01,140 --> 00:29:57,940 twice the size of a school bus that was 655 00:30:03,810 --> 00:30:01,150 colored like the moon flew directly 656 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:03,820 above myself and three other people at a 657 00:30:09,380 --> 00:30:07,330 very close range and so with no wings no 658 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:09,390 noise whatsoever so it wasn't any 659 00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:13,300 helicopter a jet plane and so and my 660 00:30:20,790 --> 00:30:17,980 paranormal experiences were for almost 661 00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:20,800 two years non-stop but yet I only had 662 00:30:26,130 --> 00:30:23,830 three physical experiences okay so this 663 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:26,140 is very temple a typical of experiences 664 00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:29,650 they've had physical but the over one in 665 00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:31,240 the type of experiences were parallel 666 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:34,870 now the third major finding is we had 667 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:39,940 borrowed questions from a 1986 academic 668 00:30:44,990 --> 00:30:41,710 research study that near-death 669 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:45,000 experiencer researcher dr. Kenneth ring 670 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:49,090 did in 1986 dr. Kenneth ring is now an 671 00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:51,370 emeritus professor of psychology from 672 00:30:55,620 --> 00:30:53,950 the University of Connecticut and he is 673 00:30:58,530 --> 00:30:55,630 one of the world's leading experts on 674 00:31:00,390 --> 00:30:58,540 near-death experiences and what he did 675 00:31:03,630 --> 00:31:00,400 in that research study was that he 676 00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:03,640 compared roughly 85 people who had 677 00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:06,400 near-death experiences with another 85 678 00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:09,400 people that had abduction type of 679 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:10,960 experiences there were some non 680 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:13,510 abductees these were contactees but the 681 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:16,360 vast majority were abductees and so he 682 00:31:21,210 --> 00:31:18,850 focused on three or four different topic 683 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:21,220 areas but one of those topic areas was 684 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:22,570 how do these people change 685 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:25,510 how were they before how are they now 686 00:31:31,539 --> 00:31:28,730 and he asked approximately 60 questions 687 00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:31,549 and what he discovered was that both 688 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:35,120 groups approximately 85% underwent a 689 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:40,130 total complete psychological profile 690 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:43,870 transformation for the positive 691 00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:48,809 let me explain that okay for example 692 00:31:52,670 --> 00:31:50,700 uhh 693 00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:52,680 for your death 694 00:31:59,210 --> 00:31:55,140 the vast majority of people that were 695 00:32:00,770 --> 00:31:59,220 contact experiencers said no okay that 696 00:32:03,890 --> 00:32:00,780 well let me go back to the percentages 697 00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:03,900 what he discovered was that 85% of these 698 00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:07,080 both groups not one both groups that NDE 699 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:10,260 group the UFO abducting groups totally 700 00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:12,840 changed who they were it was a total 701 00:32:17,540 --> 00:32:15,150 transformation of their personality for 702 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:17,550 the positive okay so what we did is we 703 00:32:23,540 --> 00:32:22,110 borrowed 85 of those questions not 85 704 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:23,550 I'm sorry we borrowed 60 of those 705 00:32:28,299 --> 00:32:25,290 questions about how these people changed 706 00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:28,309 we put it in our survey and guess what 707 00:32:33,620 --> 00:32:31,470 same exact finding 85 percent of these 708 00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:33,630 people on the average depending on the 709 00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:35,880 questions that were asked underwent this 710 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:38,100 total and complete transformation it was 711 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:41,690 like they started off as a as a worm and 712 00:32:44,930 --> 00:32:43,530 all of a sudden they came out of 713 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:44,940 butterfly okay 714 00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:47,010 and then some of the questions were for 715 00:32:51,860 --> 00:32:49,230 example do you fear death 85 percent 716 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:51,870 said no people that were atheist all of 717 00:32:56,150 --> 00:32:54,210 a sudden become very spiritual people 718 00:32:58,700 --> 00:32:56,160 that were very religious all of a sudden 719 00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:58,710 they become very spiritual they might 720 00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:00,120 have gone to church and Mass every 721 00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:02,190 Sunday but they weren't very spiritual 722 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:04,980 now they were very spiritual and some of 723 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:06,390 them stole you know maintain their 724 00:33:10,810 --> 00:33:09,090 religious aspects to them they still go 725 00:33:14,169 --> 00:33:10,820 to church but they know it's much more 726 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:14,179 profound than just you know the church 727 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:18,210 people became less egotistical they 728 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:21,390 became more loving okay more 729 00:33:26,510 --> 00:33:24,720 ecologically friendly money money money 730 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:26,520 money all of a sudden was not important 731 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:29,130 in life they became more consciously 732 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,510 aware okay that the bigger picture you 733 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,000 know that we're not alone here and they 734 00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:38,640 became more aware of God source whatever 735 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:42,000 you want to call it and there was 60 736 00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:43,290 different questions was a totally 737 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:46,260 complete new person and for the positive 738 00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:48,330 someone that you would want as your your 739 00:33:53,150 --> 00:33:51,240 neighbor your spouse how you you want 740 00:33:55,580 --> 00:33:53,160 your children to be to be you know once 741 00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:55,590 they're fully raised someone that you 742 00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:56,460 would want to be your best friend 743 00:34:03,470 --> 00:33:58,320 someone like that okay very 744 00:34:06,170 --> 00:34:03,480 compassionate loving a driven person 745 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:06,180 but it's only happening to select people 746 00:34:10,610 --> 00:34:08,490 people are being contacted now that's 747 00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:10,620 not everyone as I said before it's only 748 00:34:15,740 --> 00:34:13,800 85% of the people and also there's still 749 00:34:17,659 --> 00:34:15,750 these people that are so traumatized by 750 00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:17,669 these experiences but those are the 751 00:34:21,530 --> 00:34:19,110 people that usually had an abduction 752 00:34:23,899 --> 00:34:21,540 experience and people that only had a 753 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:23,909 few one or two experiences okay 754 00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:25,889 so they never evolved they never 755 00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:28,110 transcended their experiences never took 756 00:34:34,970 --> 00:34:31,350 off to the next level okay so that group 757 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:34,980 does exist but it was a small fraction 758 00:34:40,610 --> 00:34:38,970 and again the researchers knew that but 759 00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:40,620 they were never able to quantify it 760 00:34:44,659 --> 00:34:42,270 what were the percentages what were the 761 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:44,669 statistics and again that's not what you 762 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:46,649 get a mainstream ufology you go the 763 00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:48,570 internet I know you see of these evil 764 00:34:54,830 --> 00:34:52,470 dreaded small rays and you're sitting 765 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:54,840 there paralyzed like in fear of Chuck 766 00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:56,610 and all these Grey's around you that's 767 00:34:59,420 --> 00:34:57,840 the image that you get when you go to 768 00:35:02,360 --> 00:34:59,430 the Internet and in many of these 769 00:35:04,220 --> 00:35:02,370 ufology conferences but in reality with 770 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:04,230 4,000 toward the people have told us is 771 00:35:09,830 --> 00:35:08,490 something very very different okay we 772 00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:09,840 even asked a question for the different 773 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:12,540 types of beings we had twelve different 774 00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:14,970 types of beings what people are saying 775 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:16,620 is many many many more but we had like 776 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:20,610 top 12 categories for example the number 777 00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:22,530 one type of being was the energy being 778 00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:24,540 at 55% 779 00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:27,300 again mainstream ufology doesn't discuss 780 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:29,640 that the number two type of being was 781 00:35:40,370 --> 00:35:35,610 the human-looking being 52% number three 782 00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:40,380 was a small race 51% and we're not 783 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:43,350 talking about you know 100 150 people no 784 00:35:51,370 --> 00:35:48,170 we're talking about 1,100 people had 785 00:35:52,690 --> 00:35:51,380 contact with small raise huge numbers 786 00:35:55,150 --> 00:35:52,700 okay 787 00:36:01,660 --> 00:35:55,160 the next number was the ghost and spirit 788 00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:01,670 forms that was 47% okay then after that 789 00:36:10,330 --> 00:36:05,870 was the tall raise 37% then after that 790 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:10,340 was the the reptilians and I believe 791 00:36:17,410 --> 00:36:14,090 that was I'm not sure exactly but I 792 00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:17,420 believe was 35% and the insect toyed was 793 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:19,910 about 30% or so you know the people 794 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:22,190 describe as the praying mantis the 795 00:36:28,750 --> 00:36:25,730 insectoid types and and then we had 796 00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:28,760 other types of categories there but what 797 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:31,160 we discovered was that for all of these 798 00:36:35,290 --> 00:36:32,810 different types of entities we asked 799 00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:35,300 them was your experiences mainly 800 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:38,440 negative slightly negative neutral 801 00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,930 slightly positive or mainly positive 802 00:36:47,710 --> 00:36:44,720 okay so let's pick this the grays the 803 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:47,720 small greys in the internet and in these 804 00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:49,010 UFO conference they have these 805 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:51,800 reputations as being very very negative 806 00:36:56,590 --> 00:36:53,690 people are totally traumatized by this 807 00:36:58,420 --> 00:36:56,600 well guess what only ten and a half 808 00:37:00,730 --> 00:36:58,430 percent of the people viewed their 809 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:00,740 experiences with the small graces mainly 810 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:03,650 negative sixty percent said it was 811 00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:07,490 neutral and the rest was positive okay 812 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:10,100 so that's not perception of what's being 813 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:12,110 portrayed but yet that's what our 814 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:15,650 thousand 100 people are saying even for 815 00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:18,050 the evil dreaded reptilians the ones 816 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:21,080 that had the most vicious reputation the 817 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:23,210 ones that were you go to the Internet 818 00:37:27,850 --> 00:37:25,670 you hear all the stories they raped your 819 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:27,860 wife and they ate your children and 820 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:30,410 Obama's are reptilian you know and so 821 00:37:35,970 --> 00:37:33,170 all of that is sheer nonsense we ask the 822 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:35,980 question only 22 percent of the people 823 00:37:43,570 --> 00:37:38,510 450 people had reptilian experiences 824 00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:43,580 huge numbers 450 okay one of those 450 825 00:37:48,730 --> 00:37:45,800 people 22% said that their experiences 826 00:37:50,620 --> 00:37:48,740 were negative but then when we went to 827 00:37:53,650 --> 00:37:50,630 phase 3 phase 3 is where people wrote 828 00:37:56,380 --> 00:37:53,660 out the details of their experiences in 829 00:37:59,650 --> 00:37:56,390 writing what did we discover the vast 830 00:38:01,660 --> 00:37:59,660 majority of the people the reason why 831 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:01,670 they wrote was mainly negative 832 00:38:06,130 --> 00:38:04,730 because they were totally scared once 833 00:38:07,930 --> 00:38:06,140 they saw this being right from them 834 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:07,940 we're talking about an eight-foot-tall 835 00:38:16,089 --> 00:38:12,049 being 500 pounds like steroid mussels 836 00:38:18,660 --> 00:38:16,099 with a crocodile head you know look like 837 00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:18,670 an alligator rut right in front of you 838 00:38:25,809 --> 00:38:23,569 and you're totally horrified okay but 839 00:38:28,779 --> 00:38:25,819 yet only 22 percent other people said 840 00:38:32,289 --> 00:38:28,789 that and the main reason was as dr. John 841 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:32,299 Mack said the ontological shock of the 842 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:34,250 experience because all of a sudden like 843 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:36,410 Barbara lamb she's in her middle of a 844 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:37,970 living room cleaning in the living room 845 00:38:41,950 --> 00:38:39,890 and this reptilian being appears right 846 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:41,960 in front of her but Barbara had been 847 00:38:45,609 --> 00:38:44,210 doing this work for so so many years so 848 00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:45,619 she wasn't totally shocked 849 00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:47,990 she had telepathic communications with 850 00:38:53,759 --> 00:38:50,510 this being and it wasn't negative at all 851 00:38:56,859 --> 00:38:53,769 it was actually very positive okay so 852 00:38:58,809 --> 00:38:56,869 for some people not the vast majority of 853 00:39:00,789 --> 00:38:58,819 them but for some people I would say was 854 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:00,799 less than a hundred they managed to 855 00:39:04,779 --> 00:39:02,450 continue to have these reptilian 856 00:39:06,819 --> 00:39:04,789 experiences and then later on they lost 857 00:39:09,309 --> 00:39:06,829 the fear and then telepathic 858 00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:09,319 communications began and then it became 859 00:39:13,749 --> 00:39:11,660 very positive these experiences with 860 00:39:17,259 --> 00:39:13,759 these reptilians and I think you had a 861 00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:17,269 speaker last year Nancy Tremaine that 862 00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:20,000 that spoke here last year about her 863 00:39:28,509 --> 00:39:21,920 experiences mainly with with reptilians 864 00:39:30,670 --> 00:39:28,519 and so so so what our data reveals is 865 00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:30,680 that what is being circulated in the 866 00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:32,990 Internet and all these you materialists 867 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:35,569 ufology speakers that these people are 868 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:37,250 totally clueless as to what really is 869 00:39:41,890 --> 00:39:40,160 going on with experiencers that our data 870 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:41,900 reveals that is something so so much 871 00:39:48,549 --> 00:39:45,710 more complex okay so now let's focus on 872 00:39:52,210 --> 00:39:48,559 the the three the the four major aspects 873 00:39:55,509 --> 00:39:52,220 one was that mainly positive mainly 874 00:39:57,730 --> 00:39:55,519 paranormal and people being totally 875 00:40:00,759 --> 00:39:57,740 transformed and that a butterfly was 876 00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:00,769 coming out pretty much totally new human 877 00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:03,619 okay the fourth major experience is what 878 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:06,230 dr. Jack valet said more than 40 years 879 00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:09,440 ago is that he said more than 40 years 880 00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:12,280 ago he would be surprised 881 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:15,040 if what it turned out to be whatever 882 00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:17,710 this non-human intelligence was was some 883 00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:21,340 alien from some physical planet okay in 884 00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:24,880 our universe he says that he suspected 885 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:27,100 that it wasn't that is something much 886 00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:28,330 much more complicated 887 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:29,980 he's also stated that it's 888 00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:33,970 consciousness-based okay and I mean 889 00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:35,560 privately when he spoken to many many 890 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:37,360 people he also believed that it might be 891 00:40:42,270 --> 00:40:40,330 multi-dimensional in nature why because 892 00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:42,280 there's a manipulation of space-time and 893 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:44,080 what he said is that we just don't 894 00:40:49,470 --> 00:40:46,960 understand space-time you know physicist 895 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,480 PhD physicists we still don't understand 896 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:51,760 you know a lot of the basic elements of 897 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:54,760 quantum physics so what we determined 898 00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:57,010 was that in the experience for contact 899 00:41:01,560 --> 00:40:59,410 phenomenon undoubtedly there was a 900 00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:01,570 manipulation of space-time for example 901 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:03,190 the people are being brought to a 902 00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:06,610 contact modalities by a physical being 903 00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:08,550 that appeared in front of them and say 904 00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:11,200 look at none I know you've been thinking 905 00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:14,200 about death lately and this is a this 906 00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:16,870 being physical being like an energy 907 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:18,760 being or a human-looking being appears 908 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:19,570 right in front of you 909 00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:23,050 dressed in a Roman tunic okay he said 910 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:25,360 let me show you what death is like and 911 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:26,770 so he takes you through a near-death 912 00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:30,250 experience okay the whole gambit of it 913 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:32,860 and then it might last five or ten 914 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:34,570 minutes and all of a sudden you're back 915 00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:38,170 in your couch again okay and then the 916 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:40,390 being is not there so he brought you to 917 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:41,890 a matrix reality showing you what death 918 00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:44,530 was like so you wouldn't fear it these 919 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:46,420 are what these high-level experiences 920 00:41:51,330 --> 00:41:48,760 were having you know these type of 921 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:51,340 that's just an illustration but that 922 00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:52,570 happened to one of my best friends 923 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:55,240 exactly what I just told you and so so 924 00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,890 there's definitely a manipulation of 925 00:42:01,230 --> 00:41:58,960 space-time just like valet said many 926 00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:01,240 many years ago with dr. John Mack said 927 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:02,950 many many years ago that there's a 928 00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:05,200 manipulation of space-time that people 929 00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:07,990 being brought to other realities dr. 930 00:42:12,450 --> 00:42:09,910 Edgar Mitchell spoke about that many 931 00:42:14,450 --> 00:42:12,460 many times and all of the members of our 932 00:42:17,329 --> 00:42:14,460 board of directors all 933 00:42:19,819 --> 00:42:17,339 okay same thing now the other thing that 934 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:19,829 all of our board members have in common 935 00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:22,650 is that we believe that all of the 936 00:42:26,299 --> 00:42:23,460 paranormal 937 00:42:28,970 --> 00:42:26,309 is interrelated we call all of these 938 00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:28,980 experiences that I saw inside that wheel 939 00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:32,160 we call it the contact modalities these 940 00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:33,839 are all the different ways that humans 941 00:42:37,730 --> 00:42:35,520 are piercing the wheel and having 942 00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,740 contact with non-human intelligence we 943 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:39,119 believe that all of them are 944 00:42:45,490 --> 00:42:42,450 interrelated why because each of them 945 00:42:48,530 --> 00:42:45,500 involves a manipulation of space-time 946 00:42:50,829 --> 00:42:48,540 near-death experience manipulation of 947 00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:50,839 space-time auto body experiences 948 00:42:56,049 --> 00:42:52,980 manipulation of space-time remote 949 00:42:59,450 --> 00:42:56,059 viewing manipulation of space-time 950 00:43:01,730 --> 00:42:59,460 ghosts and spirits same thing okay so 951 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:01,740 they all have this commonality then each 952 00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:06,089 and every one of them people are taken 953 00:43:11,059 --> 00:43:09,270 out of their reality and having 954 00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:11,069 communication with non-human 955 00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:13,710 intelligence so that's how they're 956 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:16,140 interrelated now the key to be able 957 00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:19,530 understand this phenomenon all the 958 00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:22,079 near-death experiences okay all of them 959 00:43:29,809 --> 00:43:26,609 agreeing that consciousness is the key 960 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:29,819 to be able to understand this okay that 961 00:43:35,809 --> 00:43:32,720 we're dealing with a multi-dimensional 962 00:43:38,299 --> 00:43:35,819 experience involving consciousness and 963 00:43:41,809 --> 00:43:38,309 that somehow whatever this intelligence 964 00:43:44,299 --> 00:43:41,819 is is fully aware of that dynamic that 965 00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:44,309 relationship and they all suspect that 966 00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:46,140 we're dealing with interdimensional 967 00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:50,040 non-human intelligence so I think this 968 00:43:54,650 --> 00:43:53,910 is what this field needs to evolve and 969 00:43:57,710 --> 00:43:54,660 to grow 970 00:44:01,280 --> 00:43:57,720 ufology means to move away from its 971 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:01,290 materialist mindset nuts-and-bolts 972 00:44:09,860 --> 00:44:04,290 approach of just focusing on a physical 973 00:44:15,050 --> 00:44:12,440 and I have for the audience's how much 974 00:44:18,110 --> 00:44:15,060 has that approach 975 00:44:20,450 --> 00:44:18,120 in humanity over the last 70 years how 976 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:20,460 much have you learned from that my 977 00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:23,250 response would be very little okay 978 00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:25,950 there's only so many times you could 979 00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:28,800 discuss Roswell in Rendlesham forest and 980 00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:33,060 and and this this latest revelation from 981 00:44:40,340 --> 00:44:36,510 the CIA of this aircraft picture taking 982 00:44:44,060 --> 00:44:40,350 of of a UFO for an experiencer is like 983 00:44:44,990 --> 00:44:44,070 duh you know been there done that give 984 00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:45,000 me something else 985 00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:48,480 okay so Edgar Mitchell Rudy Shields John 986 00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:51,720 Mack Jacques Vallee all of these people 987 00:44:56,780 --> 00:44:54,180 dr. Dean Radin all the people involved 988 00:44:58,100 --> 00:44:56,790 in organization valets not part of our 989 00:44:59,630 --> 00:44:58,110 organization but I just mention his name 990 00:45:01,570 --> 00:44:59,640 because he also had that same 991 00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:01,580 perspective that the experiencer the 992 00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:03,750 people that have had these experiences 993 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:07,200 is the key to be able to understand this 994 00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:09,810 complicated phenomenon and it's not just 995 00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:14,430 about UFOs like our book said it's 996 00:45:19,610 --> 00:45:18,420 beyond UFOs way beyond UFOs the science 997 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:19,620 of consciousness because we're dealing 998 00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:21,690 with consciousness and contact with 999 00:45:25,580 --> 00:45:24,270 non-human intelligence okay so what 1000 00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:25,590 we're trying to do in this academic 1001 00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:27,870 research study is to put all the pieces 1002 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:30,900 together with a new paradigm because 1003 00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:32,850 this this is a new paradigm that we're 1004 00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:35,040 establishing it's a new way of thinking 1005 00:45:40,310 --> 00:45:38,520 a new way of our reality our reality is 1006 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:40,320 not what we think it is and it's much 1007 00:45:44,450 --> 00:45:42,570 much more complicated than nuts and 1008 00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:44,460 bolts ufology and that's where I think 1009 00:45:49,730 --> 00:45:46,590 this field needs to move into that 1010 00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:49,740 direction as I said we were doing this 1011 00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:52,020 five-year academic research study we 1012 00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:53,640 published the book it's available on 1013 00:45:59,450 --> 00:45:56,520 Amazon the name of the book is beyond 1014 00:46:02,530 --> 00:45:59,460 UFOs the science of consciousness and 1015 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:02,540 contact with non-human intelligence and 1016 00:46:10,030 --> 00:46:04,770 we're working on two other major 1017 00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:10,040 projects the other is a two-volume a 1018 00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:15,870 theoretical book on on this theme what 1019 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:16,950 is the relationship between 1020 00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:20,970 consciousness our cosmology 1021 00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:23,250 in contact with non-human intelligence 1022 00:46:28,250 --> 00:46:26,310 via the contact modalities and we will 1023 00:46:32,089 --> 00:46:28,260 have approximately 30 authors to that 1024 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:32,099 book 15 of them will be phd's academics 1025 00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:36,330 the other half will be experiences that 1026 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:38,700 are gonna be writing theoretical pieces 1027 00:46:43,849 --> 00:46:41,250 as to what is your opinion as to what is 1028 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:43,859 going on you've had these experiences or 1029 00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:46,170 you've reached this phenomenon for souls 1030 00:46:50,660 --> 00:46:48,300 for many years what the hell is going on 1031 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:50,670 you know from your perspective so it's 1032 00:46:54,349 --> 00:46:51,690 different perspectives different 1033 00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,359 opinions from people that have had 1034 00:46:59,870 --> 00:46:56,640 different backgrounds one person is a 1035 00:47:01,520 --> 00:46:59,880 neuroscientist another person is a PhD 1036 00:47:03,740 --> 00:47:01,530 physicist another person is an 1037 00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:03,750 astrophysicist another person is 1038 00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:06,030 psychologist another one has studied the 1039 00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:08,670 parapsychology another person has 1040 00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:11,460 focused on the paranormal and then you 1041 00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:12,900 have these experiences these that we're 1042 00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,520 talking about out-of-body experiences 1043 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,520 near-death experiences UFO contact 1044 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:19,440 experiences people that do remote 1045 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,530 viewing for many many many years people 1046 00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:24,480 that do channeling and mediumship work 1047 00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:26,910 so all different perspectives giving 1048 00:47:32,690 --> 00:47:29,849 their opinions as to what is going on 1049 00:47:34,099 --> 00:47:32,700 okay so it's the theoretical ball so the 1050 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:34,109 time of that book and the tentative 1051 00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:39,570 title is a chapter that Edgar Mitchell 1052 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:42,030 had in one of his books and the chapter 1053 00:47:49,099 --> 00:47:45,810 of the title was from outer space to 1054 00:47:51,859 --> 00:47:49,109 inner space the science of consciousness 1055 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:51,869 and contact with non-human intelligence 1056 00:47:57,650 --> 00:47:54,770 so from outer space to inner space and 1057 00:48:01,450 --> 00:47:57,660 so that book will be finished and 1058 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:01,460 published approximately January of 2020 1059 00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:04,650 we also have a documentary that we're 1060 00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:06,540 putting together it's a science-based 1061 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,359 documentary about the same topic okay 1062 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:12,960 and that'll be revealed later on in 2020 1063 00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:15,330 probably the fall of 2020 and we've been 1064 00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:17,160 working on this documentary for close to 1065 00:48:21,770 --> 00:48:19,740 two years now where people can find out 1066 00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:21,780 more information about our organization 1067 00:48:26,810 --> 00:48:24,780 or research study our first book or 1068 00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:26,820 second book in our documentary we have a 1069 00:48:33,070 --> 00:48:29,849 website we have two websites one website 1070 00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:33,080 is called consciousness 1071 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:37,310 contact gorg consciousness and contact 1072 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:40,850 gorg another website which is our first 1073 00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:47,090 website is experience org experience org 1074 00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:49,250 our website if people want to 1075 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:51,710 communicate with us and also to get on 1076 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:53,330 our mailing list because we have a 1077 00:48:58,210 --> 00:48:55,610 mailing list for different events 1078 00:48:59,650 --> 00:48:58,220 different speaking engagements our books 1079 00:49:02,500 --> 00:48:59,660 our documentary things of that sort 1080 00:49:05,290 --> 00:49:02,510 articles that get published we will send 1081 00:49:07,150 --> 00:49:05,300 you chapter one of our book beyond UFOs 1082 00:49:09,340 --> 00:49:07,160 for free eight hundred twenty pages 1083 00:49:12,340 --> 00:49:09,350 we'll send it to you for free we just 1084 00:49:18,090 --> 00:49:12,350 need your email okay so our email is 1085 00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:18,100 info at experiencer dot org info at 1086 00:49:24,430 --> 00:49:21,440 experience org and we will send you 1087 00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:24,440 chapter one of our book which is a 1088 00:49:30,250 --> 00:49:27,920 summary and analysis of our experience 1089 00:49:32,860 --> 00:49:30,260 for research study and again it's for 1090 00:49:35,950 --> 00:49:32,870 free and we will also link you up with 1091 00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:35,960 other chapters from our article i think 1092 00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,000 it's two other chapters that we're 1093 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:40,640 revealing to the public one the chapter 1094 00:49:46,180 --> 00:49:43,570 on medical healings co-written by dr. 1095 00:49:49,570 --> 00:49:46,190 retired medical doctor dr. Joseph Brooks 1096 00:49:51,940 --> 00:49:49,580 and Preston Dennett and the other one is 1097 00:49:53,890 --> 00:49:51,950 the conclusion to our book which was 1098 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:53,900 written by the late Brad Steiger 1099 00:50:00,730 --> 00:49:56,450 Brad Steiger was pretty much the father 1100 00:50:02,170 --> 00:50:00,740 of the paranormal before he died I think 1101 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:02,180 he published more than two hundred books 1102 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:06,050 on all topics of the paranormal so Brad 1103 00:50:11,260 --> 00:50:09,530 wrote that the conclusion pretty much in 1104 00:50:12,070 --> 00:50:11,270 hospice care you know a few weeks before 1105 00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:12,080 he died 1106 00:50:18,820 --> 00:50:15,950 so he's up there with Edgar Mitchell 1107 00:50:21,550 --> 00:50:18,830 they're both guiding our work and I want 1108 00:50:22,750 --> 00:50:21,560 to thank you for for this wonderful 1109 00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:22,760 service that you're providing to